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had grown considerably stronger and had gained a great many members, demanding to be recognized and dealt with as representing all the employees in the plants and absolutely refusing to disclose their membership. One of the problems of any organizing union is that if it discloses its membership and the kind of registration it has, mentioning names and addresses, right away it has given to the employer the tools for all kinds of trouble-making. He may discriminate against those who belong to the union. They don't get their promotions. They don't get the selection of jobs. The others who don't belong to the union get all the soft arrangements. They get the same wages, because it isn't practical not to pay the same wages to everybody, but the non-union members get the promotions, the soft assignments, the favors. Gradually the union members can become discouraged and drop away. It's an opportunity for the employer to weaken the union and they know that, although, of course, if they dare discriminate, if they're in a situation where they can get away with it, they can discriminate entirely and fire them if they belong to the union. Under the NRA rules they couldn't fire them if they had signed the code, but nobody knew if that was really binding or not. The NRA had blown up, anyhow. We were working in the first stages of the National Labor