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They want away saying, No, they were not going to meet the union in collective bargaining. They would consider recognizing the union to represent their own members in the plant. They wouldn't say definitely that they would, but they would consider that. That was not impossible, although they saw no good purpose to be served. However, they wouldn't consider anything else. They wouldn't permit me to give the men any encouragement as to what they would do. They wouldn't even let it be rumored what they would do until the men came out of the plant.

I spent my voice trying to urge them to give some signal of intention to agree on the basis of which I believed Governor Murphy of Michigan could get the men to leave the plant. I think, on the whole, my efforts were relatively useless that particular day, because they were unwilling to do it. I, of course, talked with Frank Murphy that night. I kept him informed at every point as to what I had done and he kept me informed as to what he had done. I told him, swearing him to secrecy, that Sloan and the others had been in Washington, what we had said, what we had talked about, what the little intricate problems were.

The strike went on and on. I think it was soon after this that the newspaper people caught me one day as I was coming back into my office from somewhere, having