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factories were in hazard of being destroyed, the Governor could certainly call out the militia to prevent the destruction of property, or the destruction of life, and to keep order. It was for the Governor to determine when order was not being kept, and he would have to define that.

Well, the President agreed with me, as did Murphy. Murphy, the President and I talked on the telphone three ways. I talked to Murphy every single night. We had a tanding arrangement. He either called me, or I called him, between half past eleven and twelve, every single night. He told me what had been done. I told him what we had done, and all that we had heard, all the efforts that we had made, any gossip that had reached us. He had more sources of information because he had more people on the spot who were circulating around among the strikers. He saw the strikers in great batches. He had everybody who was representing the union come to the offices of the Governor. He went to the factory. He even made a speech in one of the factories. He told the union men he was going into one of the factories. They said it was all right. He went in, past the guard they had set up in front of the gate so as not to let people in. In a way the setting up of that guard was right. They always defended it by saying that they were afraid of hoodlums coming in