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they claimed. I would divide that usually in two before I would believe it. This was a working formula for myself. I told him how many members I thought they had and the degree to which they were increasing their membership.

Then we discussed a good deal the reasons why men like that wanted to belong to unions. That was what sticking in Stettinius's crop. “Why do they want to belong to a union anyhow?” So I had to make a kind of an apologia of what went on in these men's minds. Why they thought the way they did. Why they remembered Homestead. What came down to them by word of mouth from old men who had been there meant more to them than any statements of the Board of Directors gotten out for publicity purposes. We talked about the general philosophy and the general wisdom of men who don't read very much, but who think and talk. We decided that it was the fashion to join, and that the strength of the organization of the steel company, the all powerful character of United States Steel, had much to do with it. They had seen United States Steel wipe out what were strong steel companies and take them over. There naturally came to be a dread in the workman's mind that he too could be blotted out. We talked about the people who had been