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said that it was his understanding from Milner that he, Milner, had worked as an undercover agent for some organization to trace down Communists wherever they might be, or subversives, and that in the course of this he had made close friends, and had many contacts and much to do, with large groups of Communists on the West Coast. That was how a major of the Oregon National Guard reserves happened to be mixed up with all these Communists. He went to their meetings and was aware of what they were doing.

The Commissioner brought Bonham down to see me. I must say that this type of individual sounded very fishy to me. A man who was said to be a well educated man, a reputable citizen, according to Bonham, and an officer of the military reserves of the State of Oregon, to have been for some years an undercover agent of some organization and flocking around with Communists, making friends with Communists, going with them, being on close and intimate terms with them, just sounded fishy to me.

I'm not sure that Bonham ever told me the name of the organization Milner was supposed to have been connected with - just “some” organzation. My memory is that it was one of those organizations that did exist out there in both the State of Washington and Oregon of citizens' committees. They had been somewhat disturbed,