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The pressure was on the Labor Department, may I say, from employers, from politicians, from newspaper editors, to deport aliens merely because they had been active and successful in leading labor movements and in leading strikes. In those strikes in the silk industry in Patterson where Doak did deport a number of people the pressure was on him from employers' organizations and from newspapers to deport these fellows that were making trouble.

Now I always thought there was a conflict there that no one could possibly resolve properly. The Secretary of Labor should be looking out for the rights of workmen to strike and to be led by anybody they chose and to get along as best they could toward the settlement of their strike. But as Secretary of Labor he was also under considerable pressure, and in hazard of being denounced, if he didn't deport persons who could be called undesirable aliens, illegal aliens, anything that they chose to call them. The question was, “What are these aliens doing here fussing around with the strike?” The fact that the man happened to work in the silk industry and was thus involved in the strike was no answer. He was an alien when it came to the strike, and that was that.

So that further convinced me that the two things didn't belong in the same place. I had been anxious to