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it. I got to feeling that he wasn't going to let me appear, that I was never going to get my chance to speak my piece, to say what the true facts were, to put it on the record, to face the members of the judiciary committee face to face. It was a huge committee. They were not members of Congress that I had ordinarily much to do with. They were not on the committees before which I regularly appeared. I had no special contact with them. I had contact with Ways and Means Committees, Finance Committees, Labor Committees, Immigration Committees, but I don't think I'd ever appeared before this group. They were strangers to me.

I knew Mr. Sumners because he was, after all, one of the high ranking senior Congressmen. I met him occasionally one place or another. I knew him as a very pleasant man. But I had a feeling that I was being pushed aside by him.

I finally called up Bob Wagner and told him my troubles. I aid, “I feel I must be heard. Don't you agree with me, Senator?”

He said, “I do. I think you're absolutely right. I've been wondering why you weren't called before.”

I said, “Well, it's not for lack of my pressing. Don't you think you can have a talk with Hatton Sumners?”