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them to think that you can find a way out, than to go out campaigning against the Supreme Court. That just doesn't hit with the common people. They don't feel this Supreme Court business. Besides, you haven't been completely frustrated, but just checked on one or two points. You've got some half answers for those.”

By this time the National Labor Relations Act had been passed. It was a matter of great rejoicing to the labor people who might have been depressed about the NRA being exploded by the Supreme Court. The Walsh-Healey Act had gone through and that satisfied the labor people just fine, although it only controlled wages and hours on a limited amount of industrial operations - namely, that connected with government contracts. It was a kind of promise, a kind of earnest good faith that the President would do this type of thing and would go further in this line.

So Jim's idea was not to lay the court up as a campaign issue, but on at least two occasions I heard Cummings lay it on the line that this ought to be the basis of the campaign. One or two other people felt like that. Ickes was always, for as long as I can remember, for going after the Supreme Court. Nobody ever said what we should do about it, but some people





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