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the President knows all about this. I don't think Homer has told it all to him. I think that Homer is muddying the waters. He's clouding it up now so that the rest of us don't understand it, don't know everything that's in his bill or in his mind.”

I seem to remember that either I, or someone sitting right by me, asked him if he had the bill there with him and if we could have copies of it. He answered that he didn't have any copies with him and that this wasn't the final draft. The bill was introduced the following day so it must have been pretty nearly the final draft, but I didn't know then that it was going to be introduced the following day. I don't think that I asked whether he had a copy, but I mentally associated myself with the question. That's what I wanted to know. “Have you got the papers there, Homer, and may we see it?” Being eye-minded, I like to look. Someone in their book said the papers were before us, but I don't think so. I can remember some-one at my end of the table asking that question. That might have been Roper, Ickes, Wallace or Garner. I was mentally associated with the question because that was what I wanted to know.