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does that. All of them do it.

Cummings went back also to the Wilson period. He was a McAdoo man later too. Cummings came out for Wilson in the 1912 convention and was a Wilson man then. There was always talk about it. The old line party people thought he had put something over on them. They didn't think he dealt fair with them. He didn't tell them what he was going to do. He switched to Wilson when they hadn't expected him to. Wilson wasn't the choice of the old line party hacks.

Anyway, I think he's a small politician, kind hearted as he can be. He's been nothing but kind and pleasant to me. He was humanitarian in a way. He evaluated the abolition of child labor more as the effect it would have on political questions and political votes than he did as to whether it was going to be good for the country, or good for the children, or good for the family life of the country. Those things didn't hit him very much.

I think he just missed the political implications of this court fight. I think he got a kind of a afflatus out of being unexpectedly called to high office. He felt powerful both mentally and politically beyond the realities of the situation. I really think that.





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