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official. The words that he could use! I never heard stronger language - profanity and everything else all mixed up with vigorous phrases. So he and others had made some very vigorous speeches about how the worker shouldn't join the union.

This all became still further emphasized and controversial when there began to be CIO unions and CIO organization, because everybody who wanted the CIO to prevail in a particular factory would be opposed to have anything done that would appear to give the slightest edge to the AF of L, and vice versa. The AF of L really wanted the employer to advise the men not to join the CIO. It was a ver confused and controversial situation.

Another ruling also made great trouble, and this only began to be significant after the CIO began to be an organizing committee and began to organize in rivalry with the AF of D. This was the ruling that the Board made that at any time when a body of workmen petitioned for an election, the Board could grant an election, and would grant an election. The Board would hold an election to determine which union, or what union, or whether or not any union was desired by the workers at a given plant.

This, of course, created great confusions and chaos in many places. We'll say that an AF of L union,





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