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I said, “How do you know him, Mr. Guffey? Does Dave Lawrence (who was the then leader in Pittsburgh) want him?”

“He wants anybody I want. I'm the Senator and as Senator I have the right to say who shall be appointed. Dave Lawrence had got nothing to say about this.”

“Well,” I said, “is he useful to Dave Lawrence in the Democratic organization of Pittsburgh?”

“Sure he is.”

I discovered afterwards that neither Dave Lawrence nor anybody else in the regular Democratic organization in Pennsylvania knew him. So he was quite a mystery. I couldn't imagine why Joe Guffey who was very much of a politician, wanted him. Then I discovered that Donald Smith had become acquainted with the Guffeys. I don't know how that was, but it wasn't hard in those days in Washington. He had an inconspicuous job or law practice in Washington. So he got acquainted with the Guffeys in one way or another. He was presentable and youngish and had become a friend of the Guffey “girls”, the youngest of whom, Emma Guffey Miller, was then about fifty-six or seven, and the oldest of whom, Pauletta, was about seventy. Emma Guffey Miller had a husband of her own, but the two other Guffey “girls” - Pauletta