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about it, because my husband was with Mayor Mitchel. There was a lot of unemployment and a lot of unrest. I remember what Haywood looked like perfectly. I have a very vivid memory of him, although I saw him only two or three times. He must have lived somewhere in that vicinity, because whenever I saw him it was on Sixth Avenue. I think I attended some meeting at which he spoke on labor matters.

I think that about that time William Z. Foster appeared on the scene. What he did, hanged if I know, but his name appeared in the public print. If I remember rightly there was a great deal of talk about how he was crowding Haywood out. I don't think William Z. Foster called himself a Communist at that time, and I don't even remember then the name Communist being used. I think Foster was more of an intellectual and less a trade union type like Haywood. I think there was bad blood between them, or so I remember vaguely. However, in the public prints and in the talk of people who got around in radical circles, you heard that this man Foster was really something. He was looming up very large.

My mind is kind of a blank of what went on in this movement after this. The World War interposed