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some Commie chum he's got, tells him what to say and what to do. He doesn't say anything otherwise, because he never makes a personal remark that shows that he's thought about anything.”

Then they began to have strikes. They hardly had an organization, but they began to have real strikes. They were very difficult. You couldn't handle them out there. The conciliators went out and they couldn't handle them. The strikes would break out in more than one town at once. They wouldn't be very big, just terribly confusing and difficult, sometime total. Then the conciliators would say, “Well, bring a committee down to Washington. We'll try and sit them down with the Labor Advisory Committee of NRA, the Employer Advisory Committee of NRA. Even though the automobile employers won't meet with their striking workers these people will talk to them.” The auto employers wouldn't meet with their striking workers at that time, claiming there was no union, and to some extent they were correct. There was an apology for a union, but the union wasn't taking charge of these strikes.

The first time these strikers came in they came into my office. The idea was that they would come in