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off within himself ideas and decisions that he know he had to make sometime. He was trying to make believe that something would happen that would make it all perfectly clear as to what ought to be done. It's the same temptation that everybody has - wait another week and perhaps something will happen that will clear the matter up.

Sometime in that period I was present one day when both Walker and Farley were trying to get his attention onto politics and onto the realities of the fact that we were going to have a convention, a nomination, and an election. The President looked up and said, “what do you think of Jimmy Byrnes? How would Jimmy Byrnes be?”, speaking in terms of either the Presidency or the Vice Presidency.

Both Walker and Jim Farley, it must be remembered, are Roman Catholics. I wasn't supposed to be in the conversation. I was just waiting for something to happen further down the table. This wasn't at a Cabinet meeting, but was in the Cabinet room. Frank Walker said first, I think, “Mr. President, I just don't think that it would do at all. I don't think it can be thought of.”

Jim Farley, who by this time was getting red in the face, said, “Frank's absolutely right, Mr. President. Absolutely right.”





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