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campaign funds. He was a friend of Jim Farley's. Farley liked him, was fond of him, trusted him, talked with him. Walker is a very quiet and very sensible man. He never made a rumpus. Walker was often called into advise. He was never in Cabinet meeting, of course, but this wasn't a Cabinet meeting.

At any rate, politics had begun to be talked of by that early part of 1940. I don't know whether Jim was an out and out announced contendor at that time, or not. That's very vague in my mind, because I hardly caught into the fact that he was a contender for the Presidential nomination, although I know now that he apparently was. But it didn't make too much impression at the time.

At any rate, in my own mind I had come to the conclusion that Roosevelt would be the Presidential candidate, and that Henry Wallace would be a good Vice Presidential candidate. I had felt that to be the case long before the convention and had spoken to the President about it long before that. I won't say that I had spoken to the President about it by way of saying, “I urge you to put yourself back of Wallace,” or, “I don't think there's any other person possible.” But I had said to him on more than one occasion that Wallace seemed to me to be