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if Mrs. Roosevelt came out?”

He said, “I think it would be fine. I think it's a good thing. You know how much I think of Mrs. Roosevelt. I like her very much and there isn't anything I wouldn't do for her.”

I said, “She thinks the same of you. She wouldn't do anything to hurt you or to hurt your prestige in this convention.”

I remember that being our exchange of conversation. Whether he said to me, “Yes, tell her it will be fine and I want her to come,” or whether he said, “I'll telephone her myself,” I don't remember. My memory is a little vague here, but I think he said he'd call her. So she had a double suggestion. It was almost essential that he call her. He was, after all, running the convention. That reinforced in her mind the suggestion that I had made. I was in contact with Jim Farley in the interim period before she came, and he went out to the airport to meet her. I stayed in the convention hall. Jim and other people went out to meet her.

I was very conscious of the fact that I mustn't appear in all this, that I mustn't publicly stand up and act as though I were saying, “See what I brought you - the big surprise.” That would be fatal to everything we had in mind. She therefore came into the convention