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in the Cabinet, and would have always done it if they'd asked him.

Now, let's get back to the 1940 convention. I think I should mention the appearance of Sidney Hillman and some of his cohorts. I've spoken about their behavior in the galleries. I've also discussed about how he decided that Wallace would do after interviewing him. I began to be awfully impressed with the pompousness of Hillman on that occasion. He had been growing more and more difficult. He'd begun to be very sure of himself and very much interested in politics as such. He deeply believed that he, through the labor unions, had swung the campaign in '36 so that it was an overshelming victory for the President. Of course, everybody else in the United States who was concerned with the thing thought that he had done it too. So Hillman began to be a little puffed up, but still he was entirely tolerable. He and Lewis, I think, were still speaking and on good terms, although Lewis had told me that Hillman was trying to be the big Jew, and that kind of thing. And Hillman would make disparaging remarks about Lewis to me privately. Each of them would let the other down privately to me. I discreetly kept my mouth shut.