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I suppose that when he was appointed as under secretary Wallace must have had in mind that he would be Secretary of Agriculture in case Wallace resigned to run for Vice President. I'm just surmising on this. I'm surmising that Wallace put him there as under secretary with the expectation that if Wallace was nominated for Vice President, Wickard would step right in. That must have been. He wouldn't have picked him otherwise. When he was made secretary after Wallace resigned, that seemed natural to all of us in the Cabinet - at least it did to me, and I guess it did to the others. It seemed natural. He was under secretary and he'd been around.

I suppose I don't have very many recollections of Wickard before he became under secretary. I think they're pretty vague and superficial.

So when Wallace resigned, Wickard took his place. I had been one of those who had worked very hard for Henry Wallace's nomination as Vice President. Wallace know that and knew that I'd done a good deal at Chicago. I'm pretty sure that I saw Wickard at Chicago. I had done a good deal. I had seen that the right people met, that delegates were brought around, and we had a luncheon for Mrs. Wallace. I gave a tea for her to meet the ladies.