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plus a feeling which I think John Garner expressed in an early Cabinet meeting - “We kind of promised to do something for the poor kind of folks.” John Garner also brought out the phrase after a couple of years, “You've got to let the cattle graze, Mr. President. It's time to let the cattle graze.” By that he meant, “Don't keep the people stirred up. Let them do as they please for a while. We've done enough.”

Jones was no rampant New Dealer in the sense that he wanted to take all the borrowing power, buying power and taxing power of the government and use it for the benefit of the wetbacks in California or the Okies in Arkansas. You might feel sorry for the Okies, but he didn't think that it was the business of the government to bail them out. He would have subscribed to a fund to keep them from dying from a plague.

I think the phrase “philosophical New Dealer” in unadvisable. I don't think it has any meaning or content. I don't have any definition of a New Dealer. I never use the word myself. I don't know what it means. It didn't mean anything. There never was any such animal as the New Deal. It didn't exist in anybody's mind. It was a newspaper man's easy way of calling this thing. Roosevelt in one speech used the phrase, “We're going