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New Dealers I ever met in my life. He was a liberal, a humanitarian and a highly intelligent man. He came out of the school of decent people trying to do the right thing by their fellow citizens. There was no philosophy about it. Henry Stimson went to great lengths to do things for the poverty stricken of his community, both as to individual, personal charitable contributions, and as to serving on all kinds of boards and committees to bring it about through legislation and civic reform. It was nothing new to do these things. Everything that was done during those days had been done before on a smaller scale, in a different way. It never had been tried by the national government and never would have been tried by the national government except for the catastrophe of the long, drawn-out economic depression. Henry Stimson was not opposed to anything that had been done when he came in. I know, because I talked to him about it.

The President appointed Stimson to the Cabinet because he wanted a Republican. Jones was appointed in August of 1940 and stimson and Knox were appointed a little later. Jones was appointed when Hopkins obviously couldn't go on any longer and, I guess, wanted to give all the energies that he had to the campaign and to helping the President on what was getting to be a