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do with young Henry Cabot Lodge's vote than any other man. Poor Henry Cabot Lodge had an awful time with himself about the Lend Lease Bill. He came from a district where there enormous numbers of isolationists. He had a big Irish population there also who didn't want to help the English anyhow on general emotional reasons. It was a bitter political problem for him, a terrible one. Yet he was the one who made the break. I was present in the Senate the day he got up and made his statement and voted for the Lend Lease Bill. He made a very good statement, which was an honorable, patriotic statement. Of course, it had the usual trimming in it that was made of the consumption of his constituents, but it was a good statement. I think Henry Stimson had a great deal to do with clarifying the problem for Henry Cabot Lodge. I won't say he persuaded him, but he mad it possible for him intellectually to find his way to his answer.

I know that he had a great deal to do with Arthur Vandenberg and his change of mind. Vandenberg was also in a terrible predicament. I mean in a terrible personal predicament, inwardly, intellectually, emotionally and morally. Many of them were in confusion. They had a terribly hard set of alternatives and I think Stimson was a great help there.