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Perkins - Interview 29 - side 2 - 10 December 1952.

On one side of me at dinner sat Henry Wallace. Our conversation was mostly quite personal—“How are your children? How do you like the farm? What's going on?” I seem to think that I said to the Wallaces, because I feel very at ease with them, “Wasn't Vinson terrible? Wasn't it a sad performance?” Henry good-naturedly laughed and didn't make any real comment. I don't know that he commented about the dinner.

We had a good deal to say to each other personally. We talked about the church. We're both much interested in the same church. We went to the same parish church here. He wanted to know about that. I told him to call up the rector of the church, who was very fond of him, Father Plank. I told him it would please him very much. We discussed more or less personal things. He asked if I would come out to Pound Ridge, where they live, when I got moved back to New York. I said, “Sure I would.” We'd meet in New York, as he comes into New York frequently.

Tom Finletter told me that night that he's forming a talk-talk group of Democrats committed to the New Deal on