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extent that they needed them, but they were to keep their own jobs running too. I knew we had to keep on working at the things we were doing.

However, this lawyer, Brandwin, that came down with Hillman would dispute Hinrichs, Lubin and other competent government economists who knew what they were talking about. He'd say, “That isn't so at all.” He didn't know. He was really a rank outsider. He was a smart and clever lawyer, and his heart was in the right place, but he was dealing with an entirely imaginary world when he imagined what workmen would do and where they would go when they were needed. This lawyer was all for doing everything by pure patriotism and not by making any practical, material accomodations for workers.

So there were a great many snarls. There was a row all the time. It was just terrible. It just seemed to me that there wasn't a day that a new row didn't turn up. Hinrichs would come rushing into my office. Tracy would come over looking red and say, “I don't know how much I can stand of this.” Tracy was really wonderful. He devised a scheme of a labor committee. This was done for no reason. You don't need a labor committee, but it assuaged the hurt feelings and brought harmony in the labor movement. The AF of L was still mad as a hornet that Hillman was supposed to be in