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right. You aren't going to change them just for politics and no other reason. But if you go out, they'll resign to a new man. So he'll make some new appointments. Politically speaking, it's a good thing to have a turnover. That was one of the reasons.

Also, I don't know, but I just had a hunch that I had done about as much as I could do at that point. It's hard to look back now and say why it was I wanted to get out. At any rate, I thought it was only sporting, at best, to rather insist on it. I don't know exactly why I thought I wanted to get out, but I did think so.

I kept pressing the President for attention to this matter. I finally went to Mrs. Roosevelt. I said to her, “Now, see here, you see the President oftener than I do.”

“Oh, but I don't get a chance to talk to him.”

I said, “All right, but you can make a chance. I have been trying to get him to okay my resignation ever sin ce sometime in November. This is why I think I should resign, and this is the way he evades me. I know he can't decide. I know it's difficult for him to pick a successor, but he can pick anybody. There are plenty of people around. I can name a half dozen to him.” In fact, I had a list of half a dozen people, all of whom would have been very good. I think I showed him the list once, and he made some comment