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on this too. I still think that if Sam Rosenman had seen the thing clearly it could have been defeated. All he knew was that the President was in a quandary, in a problem, and between them they must unravel it for him and settle it so that it wouldn't bother the President any more.

Douglas heard us one by one. Then he heard me a second time. Then he heard Smith and me in a kind of debate, because apparently there had been something that I had said that didn't quite gee with something Smith had said, or vice versa. So he asked us to come back together. On one occasion he had two or three in at the same time. For almost a week this went on.

I don't think McNutt was involved in all this at all. By that time I think he had come to the point where he didn't think that being head of the Federal Security Agency was important enough. So perhaps he was putting some influence on this.

This is very strange. I can't remember all this clearly. It meant so much to me then. I'm not very clear about this all. I've lost the thread of this. Yes I did more on it and worked on it more than I did on almost anything for a while.

At any rate, in the long run Smith's advice prevailed and Douglas handed down a decision that we should have a War Manpower Commission.

Of course, then the idea was to put everybody on it.