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his saying once, “Well, you know some of this is going to be very strong meat. It will have to be done and it's just as well to have it done where it won't show after the war is over and it can be stopped as quickly as possible.”

And indeed Truman did stop it as soon as possible. It had been part of Roosevelt's whole idea that the war powers should be quickly dropped as being hazardous in themselves in the possession of a permanent government.

I think that was quite a strong reason in his mind.

People sometimes ask me if President Roosevelt didn't rather walk over me at times and let my department be robbed because it was easier than to rob some other department, or easier than to oppose somebody else's desire to take a project.

I think I've already said that I recommended from the very beginning, and certainly after the first two years, and I think before that, that the Immigration Service be taken out of the Department of Labor. It ruined the Department of Labor. It overshadowed our proper functions in the time and money that it consumed. I didn't care where it went. I personally would have thought that Interior would have been a reasonable place for it.

When the war broke out in the United States in 1941, the President decided rather suddenly, under information that