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Well, during the war, you see, it was being raised.

The Northerners were coming South and finding something that was pretty hideous?

Well, Walter White was agitating, and he was putting his finger on the places where it mattered - the recruting, the -

So help me, I never heard of Walter White. All I saw was two drinking fountaions side by side, and I got the word.

Well yes, we always used to feel queerly when we went South on a train and found a waiting room for colored and a waiting room for white.

Yes, and get in the back of the bus.

Yes, but they got on the bus, after all. The bus hauled them where they wanted to go.

What I mean to say is, there were signs that the problem was going to come up, some time. But the Supreme Court decision just raised it into an enormous and serious issue which is almost impossible to solve in some areas.

Have you ever read anything of Lillian Smith's?

You mean the girl who wrote - oh sure. Well,