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This was never in the open. These things were never in the open. Lewis met Charlie and one or two others, and they agreed upon certain things. But Charlie didn't report it to his members. Lewis didn't report it to the United Mine Workers Committees, and nobody reported it to the public, certainly. But they had come to an understanding.

Then Lewis came to see me. He telephoned me or something. He said that he believed that if I would assist in this matter--this was a very important matter, and if the Secretary of Labor would assist in it, he believed that an agreement could be reached rather quickly. Tonight, perhaps--tonight:

“Well,” I said, “really? As quickly as that? What should I do?”

“Well,” he said, “I suggest that you invite Mr.

“--he was a white haired old gentleman, very pleasant person--“ and me to come to your house this afternoon. I think if you show an interest in what we have been trying to do quietly, that perhaps they will agree.”

I said, “But can he agree?”

“Yes, he can agree, for the Committee.”

“And can you agree?”

“Yes,” he said. “I will make it clear to you what it is when we get there.”