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Albert is a Southerner, and he won't overwork. When he thinks that he is slaving, other people won't think so, but Albert has his own pace. Nobody would dream of telling Albert what to do. When he wants to go away, he goes away.

Albert Erskine's first wife--this is an incredible story--was Katherine Anne Porter. She was considerably older than he. He doesn't talk about this whole affair. Obviously it was not very good. Then he married a very beautiful young artist who now lives in Italy. That didn't work out for one reason or another. Then he married a girl who was an Italian countess by birth, I think, named Marissa. Marissa Baldwin her name was. She had married a man named Baldwin and ran the Van Cleef and Arpels Boutique in Bergdorf Goodman and is one of the loveliest women in the world. These two got married about twelve years ago, much to my wife Phyllis‘disgust because Albert was the great extra man for dinner parties. We love him. He was always with us. We took it for granted that Albert would be at any dinner we gave and when he got married that removed Phyllis‘favorite extra man.

Then he fell in love with Marissa...and here, relatively late in their lives, they had a daughter. She is the most beautiful little girl. Her name is Sylvia. She is just an enchanting little girl, and watching Albert and