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me, before the questioning started I was asking where he's from. He said he comes from Atlanta. I said, “You from Atlanta?” He said, “Yes.” I said, “A friend of mine is in Atlanta.” He said, “Who?” I said, “Andy Young.” He says, “You're friends with him?” “Yes, yes.” He says, “You know Stony Cooks?” He says, “He's Andy's top aide.” “Stony Cooks? Of course I know Stony Cooks!” I said, “You know Shirley, his wife?” He says, “Of course! They're close friends of ours.” I said, “I'm going to call them tonight.” At any rate.

How much money was spent, total, on the campaign, do you know?

Well over 100,000 dollars. Well over.

An incredible amount of money for a rank and file campaign.

We're still raising it, to pay it back.

Still raising it.

Still raising it. But people -- you know, it was a tough time.

Let me move on. Where do you think I continue with, at this point.

We talked about the structure of the campaign, and you talked about the progress of the campaign through --

Okay. By the way, another thing that the polls showed was that Leon Davis had great recognition with members. Davis was in Florida, so he came up and did visits in the hospital to take advantage of that. But it was limited, what he could do. That was done.

Then we -- let me put it this way. We, none of us, had a firm belief that we could win. We knew that there was a great deal of unhappiness with Turner. We knew that the union was really hanging on the ropes. Whether that could be translated into defeating Turner in an election was a big, big question. Nobody could have any assurance that that was to happen. No matter what anybody would tell you now, I would dare say that there was hardly anybody who believed that we really could win -- even though the polls indicated that there was a fighting chance, that it was a good chance if... But there's a difference between a poll and bringing out your vote, and that kind of thing, and with all the other problems. I would say that it wasn't until about a month before the election that I became convinced that we had a chance to win, and it wasn't on the basis of any great scientific kind of thing. I would ask rank and filers, “What's it like in your hospital?” The person would say, “Terrific.” How would you ever know in a hospital of