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get it xeroxed and distributed.” So that within hours it's flooding the hospital. You know how workers tend to find an item about you, about themselves? It could be hidden someplace, and they're going to find it, somebody's going to find it. So you have that aspect of it. But let me go over a different thing on it.

I don't know if I told you the Gotbaum story on the record.

No.

Alright. During the campaign -- for example at the fundraiser honoring Doris Turner, Lillian Roberts, head of the Labor Department of New York State, according to the Amsterdam News spoke there hailing Doris, and accusing the opposition as being master-minded by outside forces. Now I know, Lillian Roberts has told me any number of times, her great disrespect for Doris Turner. That plus other incidents at 37 indicated very clearly to me that Victor Gotbaum was working to support Doris Turner. I put two and two together very quickly, and I knew that it was because he had gotten Doris Turner to support him in the Central Labor Council.

Because Stanley Hill, a guy who I'm fond of, called in Steve -- what is his name? We got him a job at the research department of DC37, he'd been a vice president. Steve Frankel! Had been a vice president of 1199. Has three kids. We helped get him a job there. Steve Frankel was still a union representative on the pension fund of 1199, union management trustee -- he was a trustee. The vote was very tight between 1199 and the national union -- it was one vote difference. Steve Frankel would not give up his seat. He was called in by Stanley Hill and Stanley Hill asked him, “I hear you've been distributing leaflets for the opposition to Doris Turner in Westchester.” He said, “It's not true,” and it wasn't true. He said, “I understand that you are on the pension fund.” He said, “Yes.” He says, “When does your probationary period expire?” “I have another twenty days.” He says, “I'm now extending your probationary period for another six months. On the pension fund I want, by the end of the day, your resignation in my hands.” And he gave it to him.

So I knew what was happening. Either a day or two days after I got a call from Bill Michaelson, whom I've known ever since I joined the labor movement in the store workers. Bill is a good friend. Bill was asking me, “What's the election look like?” This was very close to the election already, maybe a week or ten days before the election. I said, “Bill, I want you to know that I think we're going to win the election.” He says, “What do you mean?” I said, “Well, the polls indicate in the guild, and I don't know if you've seen the newspaper things and what's