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been happening, the editorials.” He said, “Yes, yes.” He says, “You really think you're going to win?” “Yes, I think we're going to win.” He says, “What do you need?” I said, “What do you mean?” He says, “What help do you need?” I said, “Oh, we need all kinds of help.” He says, “Well, I'm calling you on behalf of Victor.” He says, “You know what happened at the Central Labor Council?” I said, “Yes, I know.” He says, “We would like to help.”

What happened was that she ended up not voting for him.

She cast her vote for Tommy Van Arsdale, and she had given three promises to him! One after the dinner in her honor -- Stanley Hill came with two tables -- and two at other times, that they kept checking.

Do you recall the timing of the Central Labor Council vote in relationship to the election?

The Central Labor Council vote would be -- I can't get an exact date, that's easy to find out -- but I'd say it's roughly two and a half weeks before the election, if that much. It's very close to the election.

What a jerk she is.

What did I tell you? Remind me to tell you the story about the press conference, because that's another indication of what happens with her.

Okay. Everyday we would begin to contact each other in terms of what's happening on this one, what's happening on this. It was an open-shut kind of relationship. Victor began calling every day. “How are things going on this thing.”

I called Hill. I wanted, first, to neutralize Bill Tatum. I was afraid that there was going to be an editorial in the Amsterdam News similar to the one the last time, that the whites are trying to take away the union. I called Stanley Hill, and Stanley said, “I'll go and see him.” He went to meet with him twice, set up a meeting with Georgiana. Then he called me and said, “Don't worry about it.” I said, “Now can we get an editorial.” He said, “That's harder.” He says, “He will not take a position. He'll give you news stories.” So we were tightening the noose from every possible way on this.

By the way, Bill Lynch was very, very closely involved. He and Dennis are very, very tight. Very tight. But Bill Lynch was involved. From the beginning of the stealing of the election I used to go to Bill Lynch.