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from the club and didn't participate with us. And then when Lehman came out against me, he tried to call Lanigan to line up support, saying reformers were still for Ed Koch for Assembly notwithstanding Senator Lehman's attack upon me in support of Passannante, and we couldn't get ahold of Lanigan -- he wouldn't come to the club, I think in August of that year; I remember it was summer. And we decided that what we would do (because we had heard rumors, too, that he was going do resign from the club, and obviously that would be very destructive for us in that election; God knows now you'd explain the resignation of a district leader; people actually went to his house -- he lived on Bleecker Street, my recollection is that it was 350 Bleecker Street -- and knocked on the door and nobody was there or wouldn't answer the door, wouldn't answer the telephone), and it was Sara Schoenkopf's idea (she's now Sarah Kovner, Victor Kovner's wife) that we send him a telegram. The telegram read something like this: “Jim, unless you call the club within the next hour, we are issuing a telegram denouncing Senator Lehman and signing your name to it.”

Well, he called the club in ten minutes. I got on and said, “Look, Jim, can we get together? I just want to talk to you.” At first he didn't want to, but I persisted. And he said, “All right, but I just want to meet you. I don't want to meet anybody else, and we can do that at midnight and we'll meet in Jim Delaney's.” It's now maybe seven or eight o'clock in the evening when I have this conversation. So I said, “Fine.” And