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the House floor, there's Jim Cannon. He's standing at the floor entrance. And I walk over to him and I say, “Jim, I have decided, notwith- standing my reservations, I'm going to vote for Rockefeller.” He's elated, just elated. And I do vote for him.

That evening they have a reception at the Capital and I go over.

Who had the reception?

Rockefeller, and I go over and he sees me and he comes over to me and he says (this is really funny), “I know what you did and you'll never regret it.” Isn't that nice? I thought it was nice. It doesn't mean shit, I want to tell you. I mean I don't believe it means anything, but it was nice as the moment. He won't remember and he won't care. That's not the stuff that those people are made of, but it was nice that it happened. And maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it will mean something on a later occasion. I just don't think so. That's the last Rockefeller story.

When you say that that's not the stuff that those people are made of -- who are “those people” -- the Rockefellers?

The people in power -- that special group of people. I'm in power, a very modest kind of power, but I believe in loyalty of a special kind. They have loyalties, too. I mean