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their loyalties are to their friends. I mean Rockefeller will take care of the people who work for him immediately on his staff. He's marvelous that way, and I'm sure other friends. But in the political thing we're talking about -- I don't think that after that initial response of “you'll never have cause to regret it,” that there's any IOU that I have vis-a-vis him. I just don't believe it. Maybe I'm wrong about that, and maybe philosophically, intellectually it doesn't follow, since there is a certain loyalty that he has.

I hope I have an intellectual commitment to keep the promises that I make on substantive issues as well as the loyalty that I pride myself on vis-a-vis people that I'm friendly with. I guess really what I'm saying is: I don't think Rockefeller has the commitment on substantive issues that he might have on other issues such as getting jobs for people who have been on his staff.

I'd like to get precisely defined what you're talking about when you talk about the delegation. Are you talking about the entire Congressional delegation of New York or the Democrats on it?

I'm talking about New York City, and there's only one Republican from New York City, and that's Peter Peyser. All the others are Democrats.