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Just New York City.

I'm just talking about New York City. I think the way it worked out was: my recollection is that he got... At that time I think there were 27 Democrats, and I think that either 10 voted with him or 10 against him and seven on the other side. And by the way, there were only 18 from New York City. I believe he got less than a majority of the Democrats from New York City. That's my recollection.

Was there any general or single objection to Rockefeller on the part of the other 10 or so Democrats that voted against him?

Oh, yes. Rosenthal and others would take the position that he was a man he wouldn't vote for in the general election. Why should he vote for him here? I don't think that's the test. Obviously I wouldn't vote for him in a general election. There were those who would say, “You're giving great power to a man who's corrupt not financially but intellectually. That is, he represents the system that will destroy us.” I'm giving you the conspiratorial point of view. I just didn't accept any of those positions.

Then there are the purists. The purists are: “We will