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He said, “How many women are there working in canneries?” I said, “About 50,000.”

“How many women are there working in manufacturing in New York State?”

I said, “About 400,000.”

He said, “If I were you, I'd do what I could for the 400,000.”

I walked into the outer corridor and stood behind a curtain for a bit to grapple with my conscience and my reason. I decided then to accept the amendment and get the bill to cover the vast majority of women workers, and work another year to bring the canneries under the act.

I remember I didn't dare tell Pauline Goldmark, I was so afraid of her. With what Sullivan said, I made up my mind to accept the amendment. But while I was out thinking they had put the bill up for vote and they had voted to reject the House bill. All these good reformers had all voted against it because they knew we didn't want it. They had that to their credit.

That was the time that Big Tim Sullivan helped us move for reconsideration. I told him I had decided to accept, and he showed me the tricks on that. It was very interesting because even Jim Foley, who was Murphy's son-in-law and regarded as Murphy's spokesman, had voted the way the reformers