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Shientag was assistant counsel. He was a young man, just out of law school, in Elkus' office, because Elkus needed an industrial fellow to write this up and write that up. He was too busy to put much time on to it, so he pulled in Shientag. I was doing the investigations and also in my own mind, and in the mind of my Committee on Safety on which were Woolson, Stewart, NFPA and a lot of other people, I had doped out for myself and the Consumers' League what I thought was a good program of what were the essentials compared to the non-essentials in a life protection program.

It came down to the time when the bills had to be written. The commission would meet all day on Saturday and part of the day on Sunday. We would meet down in Elkus' law suite. They would talk things over. Shientag and I would describe things to them. They would air their minds. Elkus would say, “Write that up.” Shientag and I wrote with our own hands most of the New York State labor law that was finally passed. We wrote it in pencil on yellow sheets and had it typed on Monday. We did it absolutely together. He was the lawyer. He knew the form. He had a very good sense of legal style and of making it simple. He had certain definite slants about what we now call administrative