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didn't deal directly with him at this time. I think probably that this one time going to this one meeting was the only time she saw him. She suggested a paragraph for a speech of his and I took it to him with a lot of other material I had collected for him. I told him that came from Mrs. Moskowitz and she was a good sort.

At any rate, she had established herself publicly both with the party and with the newspapers and in Smith's own mind with his campaign and with being for him before the election. So that when the election was over she was in a position to make a further contribution if she wanted to.

I think probably that F.D.R. came up from Washington for this campaign, but I don't remember it too well. I think the records would show that he probably made one speech, at probably one of the large general meetings. I sort of remember that he did. There were several Smith campaigns and you get them mixed up in your memory. I'm almost sure that he came up to the Carnegie Hall meeting or one of the big general meetings to speak. There wasn't any question that he was for Smith. I think he took a part to that extent.

Of course Roosevelt was involved in the Woodrow Wilson administration in Washington and was busily working at his various jobs that the President gave him in the





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