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of the Board of Aldermen.

I was surprised one day in my office to receive a telephone call from him. I don't suppose I'd seen him in a year, or perhaps two years except at huge meetings. He asked me if I'd come down to his office, he wanted to ask me about something or other. I went down innocently wondering what he wanted. He said he was going to run for Board of Aldermen and he would like my advice as to what he should make his campaign on in the City of New York. I was somewhat surprised because I wasn't in the habit of giving political campaign advice. It hadn't crossed my mind.

I remember saying, “Well, you've certainly been a good Assemblyman. That's a good recommendation.”

“Yah,” he said, “I think I have been.”

I said, “After all, in the City of New York, as president of the Board of Aldermen, you won't have any of the duties that you had as Assemblyman. You don't pass basic legislation. Nevertheless, what else are people going to want to know about a man who's going to be president of the Board of Aldermen? I think they want to know what kind of a man he is. What's his mental bent? What's his intellectual bent? What does he think is important in the life of the community? You had a good record in the Assembly in voting for all these bills that make for the welfare of





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