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was very popular. The press popularized that. People became very much interested in it. It broke itself up into sections. Agencies and organizations volunteered to work with different sections in working out the social, economic and political problems.

It was sometime about this time that Bob Moses appeared on the scene. I don't remember whether it was at the beginning or later on, but somehow or other he did. He had been in the Bureau of Municipal Research. He was not a park specialist, a recreation specialist, at all. At some point he got in on this reconstruction thing on some of the problems of administration, I suppose.

I don't want to go into who was on it, because, frankly, I don't remember. I remember only the Governor's increasing interest in it, because it began to be the key to all kinds of problems. Mrs. Moskowitz at this point was his key to the understanding of all these problems. She turned out to be not only very able, but a very trustworthy person so far as he was concerned. She never belittled him. She never in the slightest way betrayed him. She never grabbed credit for herself. She gave it to the Governor. Her approach to everybody on these problems was, “The Governor hopes to do this,” or “The Governor would like you to do this,” or