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should. “I don't like to say this to you, Governor, but (and she shook her hand at him) I know the Catholic Church is opposing this. I fear that you have given in to the Catholic Church on this.”

He got madder and madder. She got madder and madder. He told her that he wasn't going to be controlled by any Protestant bigot and he wasn't going to be controlled by the Catholic Church. She said, “I'm not bigoted. I've always been in favor of all this child labor legislation. You know that.”

He said, “What you said now about the Catholic Church interfering in the Assembly is I think a mark of bigotry. I don't think they are, but if they are they're doing it through the consciences of the individuals who are members. The only way you can combat that is to go to those individuals one by one and show them the reasonableness of your project, whatever it is. You can't do it by calling names.”

Voices got very high. Mrs. Kelley's was very shrill. She finally got up and said, “I see no further sense in this conversation. Good morning, Governor!”

He said, “Good morning, Mrs. Kelley.”

I said to the Governor, “I think I'll go out with





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