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or less on the pattern of the Massachusetts experience. California had a very advanced law with regard to the hours of labor of women, though it didn't have very much else with regard to labor.

Different states would have different things very good in particular fields. Wisconsin, I suppose, had coverage of most of the things that New York had coverage of. But they didn't have anything like the problem of administration, or inspection, that we had, and they didn't have such a variety of industries. But they had covered theoretically almost the same things that we did. I've forgotten whether they had a free public employment service in Wisconsin, or not.

Those two states - Wisconsin and Massachusetts - were quite progressive. New York, Massachusetts and Wisconsin used to make sort of common cause together in these meetings to sort of promote things. Whatever Massachusetts didn't have that we had, they wanted, and whatever they had, we wanted. We engaged in trying to get a minimum wage board.

There were very few labor departments in the South, so we had few labor officials coming from there. They had a labor department in Kentucky, and one in Tennessee. I suppose that was the effect of miners, though I don't know. Anyway, they had one. I got very well acquainted with the