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President before him. Sullivan was a very good President. He was a good, calm man who had a good outlook. He was intelligent.

I had a great many friends among the AF of L. I was in good contact with them. A part of my special duties was to develop the Industrial Code for each industry, part of industry, operations of industry, with the binding effect of law. This was necessary because we observed a defect in the law, a place where it was not covered and a code had to be made to supplement the law, or where there had been complaints to me by union members, or employers, or workers, or coming out of our own workmen's compensation experience, our own inspectors' experience that there was nothing you could do about this situation and it was very unhealthy. Then we would initiate a code and I had to take the lead in making it.

Under the law it was required - I think very wisely - that an advisory committee be set up before a code was formulated, and that that advisory committee should have on it representatives of the workers who worked in that industry. The law said “representatives” so if they didn't have a union we could take somebody else. There also had to be representatives of the employers in that industry and also experts and representatives of the public. So