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stimulation of doing those things that are strictly for the social welfare, because they are for the benefit of the whole population really and for the benefit of the social fabric. They keep a healthy society. The union's principal duty is to take care of its members, not to take care of the rest of the world. Whereas, the social workers and the government have to take care of all people. I'm not sure that that isn't a good way. I don't mean to say that the unions shouldn't be in a position to endorse sensible social legislation, just as I think it would be well for committees of lawyers to endorse good social legislation, but it isn't the primary function of the bar association.

Dubinsky wasn't interested in political action at this time, certainly not. Unions didn't take political action. He had no special interest. I hate to say this, because I don't know if it's true, but my impression is that Dubinsky was a Socialist at that time. I don't know. I don't want to say it if he wasn't, but that's just an impression that I have. I don't know how I have it. I have it because so many of that union were probably. Fania Cohn certainly was. I knew that, because she told me that. My impression was that Dubinsky was. Sidney Hillman certainly was. I'm not positive whether Dubinsky was or not, but he certainly hadn't any interest in what one would