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Norman Davis was a different kind of a fellow. Norman Davis was very colorful. As a campaigner, he would have made a much better campaign, because he was more emotional. I've forgotten what the content of his legal practise was, but it was much more mixed. His technique of speaking to audiences was much more colorful. Norman Davis had been well tied up with the League of Nations, a great friend of Wilson's, and a great promoter of Wilson's. All the old loyal, faithful Wilson crowd stuck with him, including Newton D. Baker, who I think stuck with him to the bitter end, although Newton D. Baker by '28 wanted to be President himself and was in the running. He was also in the running in '32. Mrs. J. Borden Harriman told me with her own mouth that the reason she didn't go over to Roosevelt at Chicago, where she was a delegate, was that she had made a personal promise to Newton D. Baker that she would stick with him to the bitter end. She felt bound by her personal promise to a personal friend. It was not just a matter of the delegation with her. I know that he wanted to be President then.

But in '24 Newton Baker was for Norman Davis. The best people were for Norman Davis. They had a box up in the corner of the great first gallery of Madison Square Garden. All the better elements of the Democratic party were trotting up there all the time. I didn't use the phrase