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is extremely important. After all, here's where he has a great reputation. We must carry New York. Smith is so devoted to New York that he won't consent to just anybody being Governor. What's more, if they put up a regular Tammany Hall candidate for Governor, it might greatly impair Smith's chances of carrying New York and the electoral votes that go with it in the Presidential election. We must have a good fellow.”

There were more obvious ones than Roosevelt. Wagner, for instance, was also a Tammany Hall fellow. He had lots of defects. Wagner's great reputation hadn't been made then. Jim Foley was Tammany Hall. He was the son-in-law of Charlie Murphy. His reputation wasn't so hot in 1928. It hadn't been completely established. What's more, he was quite neurotic, was Charlie Murphy's son-in-law and was the spokesman for Charlie Murphy. I think Foley deserved the good reputation that he acquired, and he was acquiring it then, but he was still pure Tammany Hall. Upstate New York was never very warm-hearted about Tammany Hall. The upstate Democrats were always very anti-Tammany Hall, as a matter of fact. The thought was that you had to get somebody else.

I know that George Van Schaick was mentioned. The O'Connells had a candidate of one of the Cornings - that beast, Lieutenant Governor Edwin Corning. Smith put his