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That had been his advice to me, which I've discussed. He wanted me to be a real Democrat, so I tried to be. I always went to the Democratic State Convention. I wasn't a delegate. I was just one of the “also attending” people. I was always loyally working for whatever the Governor wanted, seeing quantities of people, becoming acquainted with all of the upstate Democrats and out of the way people, shedding sweetness and light on every group possible, particularly on the women's groups.

I suppose it was at those conventions that I became politically acquainted with old Mrs. Livingston, though I had been acquainted with her before. She always turned up at the conventions. She was very vigorous and active in those days. If I asked her to give a breakfast, and wouldn't she ask Mrs. So-and-So, and Mrs. So-and-So, she was always willing. She was always willing to give a luncheon. Caroline O'Day was always willing to give a luncheon. There were a number of other people like that. Mrs. Chauncey Hamlin, who's been dead for a long time now and was killed in an automobile accident fifteen or twenty years ago, was always willing to help.

I was always there, rumbling around, seeing a lot of people, and making friends, but just to be loyal. One convention blends into another just like that. That's why