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As to whether I had the feeling during the campaign that he might take the state and Smith lose it, I would have to say yes and no. I didn't have that prevision. I felt very sure that he would carry the state and be elected Governor. I had very strong convictions on that. I felt sure he would for a lot of reasons, among them that the Roosevelt name was such an acceptable name all through the state. Until I had gone out deeply into the country I didn't begin to realize how unlikely it was that Smith would be elected President. I still held enough innocence of youth to believe that people were elected to high office because of their merit. The voters sat back and judged them on their merit. Smith had certainly been the most remarkable Governor that New York had ever had. I thought all you had to do was to say to the people of the United States, “See, this is what he did in New York. This is the kind of a man he is. This kind of thing is what he will do if he becomes President of the United States. This is his state of mind, his attitude, his conviction about what the people are entitled to and what the government is for.”

I was enough of a New Yorker so that I did not realize the strength of the passionate, deep anti-Roman Catholic feeling in the USA. I was brought up in New England, and although as a child I saw the A.P.A. riots and was aware of